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Re: KOTM: "An Open Letter to David Icke."

#21  Postby Oneofmany » November 23rd, 2009, 12:48 pm

great read (smo2)
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Re: KOTM: "An Open Letter to David Icke."

#22  Postby Marpat » November 24th, 2009, 10:08 pm

Did you get any reponse? I would be shocked if you did.

The truth is that his followers WANT to see conspiracies in everything regardless of whether there is one or not and they are happy to fight tooth and nail to push some retarded ideas.
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Re: KOTM: "An Open Letter to David Icke."

#23  Postby angeress » November 25th, 2009, 1:30 pm

The David Icke forum has actually run out of its MOT, it is not so good anymore and is a hive of negativity. As for Icke himself, he is not the famous being he considers himself anymore and his shows sell because of the comedic value of the show.
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Re: KOTM: "An Open Letter to David Icke."

#24  Postby Marpat » November 26th, 2009, 10:52 pm

I think a lot of this might be due to people feeling disillusioned with his ideas. People are getting bored with all the preaching but no action. What is the point of making all these vile and evil claims about how the world is run yet do nothing about it except make a fat pile of cash out of followers. Personally I think Icke is happy to sit and write books and be labelled as a crank, to condemn money yet make lots of it. He certainly doesn't seem interested in fighting for the human cause. It certainly seems that way to many.
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Re: KOTM: "An Open Letter to David Icke."

#25  Postby Marpat » November 26th, 2009, 10:54 pm

So did you get a reply Ant?
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Re: KOTM: "An Open Letter to David Icke."

#26  Postby angeress » November 27th, 2009, 10:34 am

Nevermind about David Icke any more, he had his chance to talk but he blew it as per usual. What is so important with the man, does he talk to basically everyone? I mean does he talk to people in a general way via a newspaper column, NO. David Icke it seems will be reading these posts regd him and he will be demanding to wear a headband to stop his head from exploding.
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Get this people, I was reading the latest brick book, via a LIbrary book and there was no mention of reptillians whatsoever. WTF, David Icke the man is just like the Jim Jones, the Rajneeshes, the Hubbards of this world. I know it and so do you.
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Re: KOTM: "An Open Letter to David Icke."

#27  Postby angeress » November 27th, 2009, 10:50 am

I have just had some breakfast Ant, why are you talking about sex life for???
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Re: KOTM: "An Open Letter to David Icke."

#28  Postby angeress » November 27th, 2009, 12:27 pm

Too much information, and a hosepipe spanking really? He is just inviting his followers to do this as per usual and dropping hints.
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Re: KOTM: "An Open Letter to David Icke."

#29  Postby Marpat » November 27th, 2009, 3:37 pm

If he printed it then there can be no legal threat unless you post his words verbatim. Any chance of a peek at what he says, pref with page number, as I could have some fun with that in his forum.
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Re: KOTM: "An Open Letter to David Icke."

#30  Postby Neomatrix » January 15th, 2010, 2:49 am

Oh dear.

It's been almost five years since I wrote that 'open letter' to David Icke on the (now defunct) Noble Realms forum. I remember it mostly for the sheer amount of supportive and vindictive comments that were directed towards myself as a result. But I guess it was good to get some reaction from the people reading it, be it positive or not.

Sad to say that nothing much has changed in the last five years since the time of its writing. Yes, there's an 'awakening'... of sorts... occuring in the world, and as long as there's certain people out to make a quick buck (or a shit load of bucks) by fucking over this planet and its inhabitants, there's always certain other people who will be out to make a quick buck by simply pointing it out. We're all slaves to money, after all.

But I'm an engineer, so I deal in numbers too. As long as the percentage of those still slumbering greatly outweighs the percentage of those now awakened (to a degree), then the future still looks incredibly grim. I don't mean to sound like a fear-monger myself, but it is getting more apparent that we are quickly running out of time...

I've come to realize over these last five years that 'the system' cannot be fixed. This is not merely an idea or an opinion within my mind; it is a known and it is indisputable to me. The current world system - which is one of predation, dog eat dog, survival of the fittest - must come to an end if humanity is ever going to realize its greater potential. We must stop behaving like petulant, ignorant, cry-baby children and mature into responsible adult human beings.

But I still see so much negativity and hostility. If anger and outrage are going to be the means, then the ends will be equally as violent. The futility of war is now well known, but I'm increasingly of the suspicion that one is looming on the horizon. This will not be a war of country against country, or 'good' against 'evil' in the traditional sense. Rather, it will be a war of the haves against the have-nots, and it's inception will be rebellion followed swiftly by revolution. Its battlegrounds will be our towns and cities; its soldiers our friends and family; its weapons the fury of those with nothing left to lose.

I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not optimistic. We've been beaten and chained then backed into a corner. The knives that will soon cut our throats are in the hands of our oppressors, and they're definitely not in the mood for talking it over first. If the truth won't set us free, then there's always a machete...

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Re: KOTM: "An Open Letter to David Icke."

#31  Postby I AM ALL I AM » January 15th, 2010, 3:24 am

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G'day Neomatrix. :wave (TH)

Welcome to the forum mate. (Yey!)

Mate, I loved your 'open letter' and have enjoyed reading your initial post upon this forum. (TU)

I agree with your statement that the system cannot be fixed. This was one of the reasons that around 11 years ago now I chose to live without a residence and only spent money (giving support) on those things that would sustain my physicality instead of the infrastructure of the system. It is the foundations of the system that give forth the structure, and it is these foundations that perpetuate 'the haves' vs 'the have-nots'. While this system is in place, then we will not have world peace, people living in abundance, etc, etc.

Yet this IS something that we can have.

What it will take to achieve this is to throw out the system in place and recreate our community structure with loving guiding principles. I believe that this can be achieved through removing support from the system in place, the societal infrastructure. For the only way that those in positions of power can achieve their aims is if we comply and help them to achieve it.

If it means that we have to initially stand shoulder to shoulder against those that are willingly supporting the global agenda of those in positions of power, then I am willing to do so. Ultimately though, the power is in our hands, it is our choices that will determine what those in future generations will be born into, a system of control, or a world of freedom.


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Re: KOTM: "An Open Letter to David Icke."

#32  Postby Neomatrix » January 15th, 2010, 4:31 am

Thanks for your reply, and a hearty g'day to you too.

Yes, we can have world peace, abundance, prosperity, dogs and cats living together, etc, etc. We have the power and technological capability to create a near utopia on this planet... if the desire is there.

However, throwing out the system in place will not be an easy task, and those who have a vested interest in its continuation will not give it up without a fight. It would seem that if we want to glimpse the splendor of heaven we must first plunge ourselves into the fiery depths of hell. Humanity must confront and overcome its demons if we are ever going to manifest positive change on such a large scale. So the question then becomes: how much blood are we willing to shed?

Whichever way you look at this, we are going to be in for a very rough ride. Times are already hard yet this is only the beginning, and it's a given that not everyone is going to make it through alive. It would be nice if we could simply cut this world in two: on the one half would live the freedom lovers, and on the other would be the control freaks, and never the twain shall meet. Problem solved! If only reality were that simple...

Humanity has always been at war with itself. This is a predator world, and so the parasites always end up in control... one way or another. Perhaps things can indeed change, but not so long as the parasites and those who support them are still around. They must be removed - period. This sounds inhuman until we recognize that those people are nothing other than inhuman themselves. There's no use crying over spilt milk, and milk has more intrinsic value than the blood of those soulless bastards. So in the event of their 'untimely demise' my conscience would remain (relatively) clean. Unfortunately they won't go down quietly... and they won't go down alone.

With the vampires gone the real human beings might actually stand a chance... for a while. That is to say, a window of opportunity would be opened, and a shiny new world might well arise from the smouldering ashes of the old. But if our focus wasn't clear and our intentions pure, the predator would eventually return and resume control. We've seen it happen many times before; good intentions don't always guarantee positive outcomes.

Thankfully, I'm not a betting man.

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Re: KOTM: "An Open Letter to David Icke."

#33  Postby I AM ALL I AM » January 15th, 2010, 4:54 am

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G'day Neomatrix. :wave (TH)

You're welcome mate. (TU)

It will be an interesting few years coming up as more and more people recognise the tyranny of the global elite. (W)

I believe that how it all turns out will depend upon peoples willingness to support each other. Of course this is not something that the system instills in everyone, but it is something that most people enact when faced with extreme circumstances, which can be seen during / after 'disasters'.

When / if the hundred monkey syndrome kicks in, then we might have a faster change occur than we can perceive of at the moment. Which would be a great thing.

It will ultimately come down to individuals though. Each of us will be facing an opportunity to be / enact a creative change that will start with ourselves and expand outwards. Some might choose to not take part and these will be swept aside, casualties of ignorance and an unwillingness to change.

I'm actually going to enjoy the change, especially living here in Australia where there is abundant land and therefore abundant food. (Yey!)


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Re: KOTM: "An Open Letter to David Icke."

#34  Postby Neomatrix » January 15th, 2010, 5:18 am

Yes, it will definitely be an interesting few years. Even with all the horror and suffering, it's truly an amazing time to be alive. Real life seems to have become more riveting than any action movie.

And there's always that inner voice that says, "it doesn't really matter". If I die, so what? If humanity is condemed to extinction, so what? We are living in this illusory universe, in a world constructed of matter that is anything but solid. Our true heritage is divine, and our true nature is immortal. So let's experience this world for what it is, absorb the lessons that it can teach, and then move right along.

It's a big universe after all, and I wouldn't want to be stuck in one place forever. I guess it's in our nature to try and reflect spiritual, eternal truths out into the physical, temporal world. It may also be somewhat misguided, and perhaps even downright impossible. The important thing is to just hold onto those truths, and never give in to fear and despair. I guess the world will take care of itself, one way or another...

It's still fun to consider the possibilities though!

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Re: KOTM: "An Open Letter to David Icke."

#35  Postby I AM ALL I AM » January 15th, 2010, 5:45 am

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G'day Neomatrix. :wave (TH)

I read Jurassic Park by Michael Chrichton years ago and the character that was a chaos mathematician explained it well. We basically are destroying our environment that we use to sustain ourselves. The Earth will survive the human species, and if we do destroy this physical species as we have done to so many others, the Earth will still be here when there are no humans left.

It is definitely fun to delve into the possibilities. :D Who knows, we may well manifest immortality with our current physicality and experience traveling to other star systems without having to be born into another physicality. (TU)


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Re: KOTM: "An Open Letter to David Icke."

#36  Postby strider » January 15th, 2010, 1:27 pm

Afternoon Neomatrix..

I think your open letter to David Icke is brilliant. It was very well put without having to resort to cheap shots and I think you'll find more and more people have agreed with you over the last few years. (TU)
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Re: KOTM: "An Open Letter to David Icke."

#37  Postby Neomatrix » January 15th, 2010, 8:58 pm

Hello Strider, and thanks for your reply.

I try not to resort to cheap shots; in fact, mostly I don't have to resort to them - although it can be fun sometimes. Whether it's true that more people have agreed with me over the last few years I would find particularly difficult to quantify. However, as I stated in a follow up post to the original thread in the NR forum, it was not intended to be an 'attack' on David Icke himself, but rather upon the stagnation that can result in 'conspiracy addiction' (for want of a better term). People are often good at talking the talk, but anything more than that requires effort, dedication, and a refusal to submit or comply to dictatorial systems of control and suppression.

I guess I'll have to admit that what I really want is indeed rebellion and revolution. I know that it won't be pretty, and that many good people may well pay the price with their own lives, but I really don't see any better options presenting themselves at this point in time. If people can finally stand up - en masse - and refuse to acquiesce to the insane schemes and objectives of the global 'elite', then I will know that there is something in the human spirit that is truly worth protecting and saving - and truly worth fighting and dying for. Words like 'freedom' and 'liberty' have unfortunately become political buzzwords, and represent anything other than their original definitions which are now largely lost and forgotten. They have been degraded and polluted, nothing more than emotional tools to be used and abused in the fomentation of useless laws and useless wars. This is becoming increasingly painful for me to observe.

In that regard what I had said five years ago remains just as valid, but with an ever-increasing sense of urgency. Whilst the likes of Alex Jones, Jeff Rense, David Icke, Gerald Celente, Peter Schiff, Ron Paul, Nigel Farrage and Daniel Hannan can alert us to the problems that we are now facing, I feel that it will ultimately be up to all of us to take action. These problems cannot and will not be resolved politically or militarily. What we need is a new social order whose foundations are based upon human rights, individual creativity and expression, and a respect for the planet whose very existence we are utterly dependant upon.

So am I advocating a new world order? Why, yes. Yes, I am. There's nothing so great about the old world order, with its oligarchy and inherent cronyism. This sickening bastion of control and suppression needs to be extricated completely from the social fabric that binds all of our lives. Only then will humankind be free to explore the greater possibilities of existence in a multi-dimensional universe.

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Re: KOTM: "An Open Letter to David Icke."

#38  Postby amethyst » January 15th, 2010, 9:07 pm

Neomatrix, it's interesting how things haven't changed since you first wrote that letter (EKK)

But I'm being redundant....this has already been stated here :love5
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Re: KOTM: "An Open Letter to David Icke."

#39  Postby Neomatrix » January 15th, 2010, 9:21 pm

Hello Amethyst.

The only thing that has noticeably changed is the level of people's hostility towards those in positions of authority. I guess that's all we can expect for now, as well as its inexorable continuance into the short-term future. But just as you can only blow so much air into a balloon before it bursts, you can only heap so much misery onto a populace before they rebel. So the question is not one of how or why, but rather of when and where. I no longer feel that I'm predicting or prophesying the coming revolution; these days I feel more like I'm heralding its imminent arrival.

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Re: KOTM: "An Open Letter to David Icke."

#40  Postby angeress » January 18th, 2010, 1:15 pm

Well NeoMatrix you are classed as some sort of internet hero thanks to that letter you have posted. (C)
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