Mind Control To Make A Killer (a.k.a. A Soldier)

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Mind Control To Make A Killer (a.k.a. A Soldier)

#1  Postby I AM ALL I AM » October 29th, 2009, 10:06 am

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Here's two documentaries that I watched earlier this morning whilst doing some downloading. I fully recommend downloading and watching both of these videos to gain an understanding of how soldiers are mind control subjects of the governing bodies.

The first is from the Vietnam veterans, in their own words, about the atrocities that they and other soldiers committed for their country. It gives great insight into some of the training that was conducted to create the mentality that lead to them do as they did. Considering that there has been no known difference in how soldiers are being trained, then there is no wonder that the pictures from Abu Ghraib contained what they did.

The second video shows how the video footage of the current wars around the world are being controlled, sanitised, to avoid the outrage that footage produced during the Vietnam war. There are the obvious issues brought up, as well as some insight into other aspects. One thing that was brought up that I found interesting was that there were training videos produced in 1999 by Hollywood producers and others to help in training the soldiers. Now, considering that the video footage showed the game to be in what appeared to be an Iraqi town/city and that it was two years prior to 9/11, it brings up some interesting questions as to the prior planning of the war, which in turn lends further weight (as if any more was required) into showing that 9/11 was indeed an inside job and used for the purposes of starting another war.

I'd be interested in hearing what you think about either/both documentaries and encourage you to not only download and watch them, but also to share them with others. (TU)


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http://www.wintersoldierfilm.com/
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In February 1971, one month after the revelations of the My Lai massacre, an astonishing public inquiry into war crimes committed by American forces in Vietnam was held at a Howard Johnson motel in Detroit. The Vietnam Veterans Against the War organized this event called the Winter Soldier Investigation. More than 125 veterans spoke of atrocities they had witnessed and committed.Though the event was attended by press and television news crews, almost nothing was reported to the American public. Yet, this unprecedented forum marked a turning point in the anti-war movement. It was a pivotal moment in the lives of young vets from around the country who participated, including the young John Kerry. The Winter Soldier Investigation changed him and his comrades forever. Their courage in testifying, their desire to prevent further atrocities and to regain their own humanity, provide a dramatic intensity that makes seeing Winter Soldier an unforgettable experience.

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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0485898/

When Baghdad exploded under bombs, television chose to bring us fireworks. But does this distant and spectacular image tell us what is really happening on the ground, how it feels or what it means? Television has the means to take us anywhere and show us anything. It can bring us the physical experience of war with all its horrors, like no other medium, and yet the image of American war on television is disembodied, bloodless, and unreal. The invasion of Iraq was the most closely documented war ever fought. Lasting only 800 hours, it produced 20,000 hours of video, but those images were tightly controlled, producing a monolithic view of combat sanitized and controlled by the Pentagon.

Enemy Image traces the ways us television has covered war, starting with Vietnam in the 1960s and shows how the military has devised ever-improving means of ensuring the American public never again has the real face of combat beamed directly into their living rooms. Comparing footage of Vietnam, including rarely-seen material shot in North Vietnam, to coverage of Iraq and using extensive interviews with veteran war correspondents and news anchors, Mark Daniels demonstrates how television that once revealed the truth is now increasingly used to hide it.

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Re: Mind Control To Make A Killer (a.k.a. A Soldier)

#2  Postby Oneofmany » January 15th, 2010, 11:06 am

I find it funny that people say mind control doesn't exist when you can't walk out your front door without running into somebody that has been affected, be that a soldier, nurse, doctor,receptionist, police etc. Notice how people refer to themselves by their occupation? could be something about the entraining people go through to be deemed "fit" to don their new persona.

I forget where i read it but there was a study done on first and last year medical students where in their first year they were asked how much they believed right nutrition had to do with good health, I believe about 80 odd percent said that diet was a major factor to health in their first year compared to about 8% in their last. Mind control anyone?
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Re: Mind Control To Make A Killer (a.k.a. A Soldier)

#3  Postby I AM ALL I AM » January 15th, 2010, 1:00 pm

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Thanks for the response mate. (TU) It gives me the opportunity to move this thread to the new Mind Control sub-forum. :D

Now that's an interesting piece about the medical students mate. Apparently (from documentaries) in the US, there is little to no nutritional training for medical students, to the point that it works out as around 1 hour on average for each student, which even that is optional. (RY) Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food, is obviously not something that is taken seriously at all.

I suppose you could say that anyone that doesn't believe that they have been conditioned (mind controlled) through the institutions of the societal structure are still under the influence of mind control. More than likely these are the people that are the major consumers that also push up the averages of hours of TV watched per person and discuss what shows they watched the night before at work, acting as if the characters in the shows are real people. They would be the ones that idolise celebrities and follow fashion trends, even if it puts them in debt.

I'm not certain that these were on the external drive when I transfered all of the files mate, but if not, next time you're up here, or if I get down to Sydney, I'll drop them onto your external drive for you. (TU)


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Re: Mind Control To Make A Killer (a.k.a. A Soldier)

#4  Postby Oneofmany » January 15th, 2010, 1:21 pm

G'day One Of Many.

Thanks for the response mate. It gives me the opportunity to move this thread to the new Mind Control sub-forum.


Your welcome brother

Now that's an interesting piece abot the medical students mate. Apparently (from documentaries) in the US, there is little to no nutritional training for medical students, to the point that it works out as around 1 hour on average for each student, which even that is optional. Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food, is obviously not something that is taken seriously at all.


That wouldn't surprise me in the least with the medicos. When your taught to be inhuman, it's no suprise when inhumanity gets inflicted upon you. Nutritional benefits to life are obvious

I suppose you could say that anyone that doesn't believe that they have been conditioned (mind controlled) through the institutions of the societal structure are still under the influence of mind control. More than likely these are the people that are the major consumers that also push up the averages of hours of TV watched per person and discuss what shows they watched the night before at work, acting as if the characters in the shows are real people. They would be the ones that idolise celebrities and follow fashion trends, even if it puts them in debt.


couldn't agree more (Yey!)

I'm not certain that these were on the external drive when I transfered all of the files mate, but if not, next time you're up here, or if I get down to Sydney, I'll drop them onto your external drive for you.


My hard drive was knocked off the table by Ryan and i cannot recover the info on it. I'll have to buy another one first.
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Re: Mind Control To Make A Killer (a.k.a. A Soldier)

#5  Postby I AM ALL I AM » January 15th, 2010, 1:23 pm

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Bugger mate. At least you know where you can fill the new one up from. (TU) :smo7


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Re: Mind Control To Make A Killer (a.k.a. A Soldier)

#6  Postby Blowingoin » January 15th, 2010, 1:43 pm

Some very interesting points raised in this thread. In regards to Holywoods involvement in mind control productions, I've just been reading about the strong ties of the hippy movement to the military, mostly through family connections. But not the grunt classes in the military, but intel and officer classes. Also there seems to be a tie in of the armed forces with old (American) money. David Crosby, of Crosby Stills Nash and Young fame, is very well connected to the point of being an American aristocrat. Intrigingly, a strong case can be made that the hippy movement and some of the most influential bands of the 60's and 70's originated in Laurel Canyon, Los Angeles. Nearly all, if not all, the main players then had military connections and all lived in this small zone within Los Angeles. Prior to the hippies moving in, the place was home to those within in the movie industry, so I have to wonder about the military/CIA connections within Holywood. What is interesting is the large number of nasty murders and suspicious deaths that happened in such a small area. Fascinating stuff. Anyhow the site with this interesting story can be found here: http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr93.html

I've not my mind up one way or the other regarding Laurel Canyon. I mean it's a big step to take to look at these rock icons like David Crosby, Frank Zappa, Neil Young, etc., in a totally new way. Frank Zappa in particular comes out of it looking really unpleasant. But I've often thought that rock music may well be a vehicle of the same dark forces behind the military industrial complex. Many of the elements are there in this story.
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Re: Mind Control To Make A Killer (a.k.a. A Soldier)

#7  Postby cloudgazer » January 18th, 2010, 11:46 am

Hey Blowingoin,

I wonder if the elites' family connections in the hippy mass movement, were planted there to control it from going further. There were some good things about the hippy movement, but look we still have war today, hate crimes, etc. Also I think all famous people have connections of some kind with other elites, whether it's family or friends I guess. Perhaps these elites were cashing in on the trends of the 60s and 70s, related to all temporary aspects of the western culture. I think 60s and 70s pop music is overrated. Sure it was rock, but it was pop rock, because it was popular, all over the radio, and they still play the same songs over and over on the radio here in america, from the 60s and 70s. There's some really good music from that time period though that wasn't popular but far more talented I think.
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Re: Mind Control To Make A Killer (a.k.a. A Soldier)

#8  Postby Blowingoin » January 24th, 2010, 3:29 pm

I don't personally consider that there were many good things to come out of the hippy movement. It was all just another contrived dialectic. I was very much influenced by it and adopted many of the cultural aspects of it, but found it to be pretty hollow and hypocritical. The best thing to come out of the movement was the willingness of hippies to adopt many of the old peasant lifestyles and a back to the land philosophy. I think that this was a particularly rich, unintended, by-product, that has spawned many brilliant ideas. But overall, for most of the followers, the hippy movement was just about hedonism and the shedding of responsibility.

I don't think I've ever heard anyone say that music from the 60's and 70's is overrated. If it was overrated, what was a richer period musically? I'm still scratching my head about that comment.
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Re: Mind Control To Make A Killer (a.k.a. A Soldier)

#9  Postby deathcultreject » January 24th, 2010, 3:54 pm

Blowingoin wrote:I don't personally consider that there were many good things to come out of the hippy movement. It was all just another contrived dialectic. I was very much influenced by it and adopted many of the cultural aspects of it, but found it to be pretty hollow and hypocritical. The best thing to come out of the movement was the willingness of hippies to adopt many of the old peasant lifestyles and a back to the land philosophy. I think that this was a particularly rich, unintended, by-product, that has spawned many brilliant ideas. But overall, for most of the followers, the hippy movement was just about hedonism and the shedding of responsibility.


I think you've hit the nail on the head about why 'hippy' turned into an insult.

There was another good side to it such as a culture of questioning the PTB, and the fact that millions of people took up awakening practices because they wanted to 'be' a hippy.

You can still trust hippies who meditate, but people who do hippy drugs and not much else aren't so likely to stay around when the situations they create turn stressful.
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